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Sancho Panza

And....? The fact that many or most have their own means to evacuate doesn't mean they are *not* part of the 1.3 million who need to evacuate. By definition, they are. You are pointless here.

There still needs to be a plan to enable all of them to evacuate effectively and as efficiently as possible. Contraflow lanes, for example, are part of that. Had authorities not done that, there might be some who wouldn't have gotten out.

Although I note that contraflow was *ended* at some point, Sunday I think. Don't know why.

BWAHAHAHAAA!! Ah, the innocence of youth. Tell that to the 30 watered residents of the bursing home in St. Bernard Parish. The submerged area of Metairie in Jefferson Parish, or the other places where standing water is brackish and disease-ridden. You are surely wrong. The threat was just as bad in other places. The fact that levees held west of the city except for Metairie *does not* mean that they didn't face such a threat, It could just as easily happened there as in the city itself. You make the logical error of judging from the fact that something *didn't* happen in one area, it justifies saying that area had not faced the threat. Much of Jefferson Parish is at or below sea level and is protected by levees and pumps. They just didn't get breached, again except for Metairie.

As demonstrated above, you are wrong on this point, boyo. As I write this, I am watching CNN video from Plaquemines Parish, the land area of which is still two-thirds under water.

You failed to address the plain fact that levee breaches flooded into St. Bernard Parish towns of Arabi, Chalmette, Meraux and other places. I am not surprised, since this contradicts you.

Well then you know something that just isn't so. You thinkg everything drains in a matter of days, eh? Do you work for FEMA or Chertoff? They didn't know stuff that was being televised on the news either. Many suburban areas remain under water as we speak. They did not drain in days, as you claim.

No soup for you, two years! NEXT!

Good for them. Then you had no point, PLUS you failed to read your own words even before your pathetic attempt to scold *me* for not reading. Poor. I restored the snip you made so folks can see.

Incidentally, if Jefferson Parish officials actually did post armed guards to keep people - interlopers indeed! Evacuees I should say! - from crossing over from New Orleans, I think that's a criminal act. Can you document this. I-10 , one of the major evac routes from the city proper toward Baton Rouge, crosses into Jefferson Parish, as do many many other streets that would naturally be used as evacuation routes, such as US 61.

If we can find examples of folks who were *prevented* from leaving New Orleans because racists in Jefferson Parish turned them back with armed guards, we have a criminal act.

You are talking from hindsight. You need to re-immerse in Friday's milieu. It's unfortunate that things weren't clearer to everyone. But the trigger point for invoking a mandatory evacuation had too much hesitancy behind it. Bad mistake. It was a situation that called for an unprecedented action and they blinked too long. They are to blame for it.

Hardly. Did you watch the news? You're clueless.

Or from homes or neighborhoods or many parts of the city and suburbs. So what? Thousands more still *did* leave that day. Those who could not were forced to stay, some at the dome. Many who *could* leave still chose to stay. You're arming me with even more reasons why my position that a last-day mandatory evac is accurate. Heck, they STILL can't get about 15,000 people out who have remained behind by choice.

They have; you just don't accept it. They did not have the means of transport readily staged and at their disposal, with logistical support for other shelters. Very bad planning. You can't throw it together at the last minute. But buses without drivers and without a plan don't do anything for you.