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And your point is... speeding is fine because "everybody does it"?

Can't say I really know, exactly, since "excessive" is subjective. A traffic engineer would have a better idea. But I think it's worth a peek at proportional percentages, ie. 10-15 mph over a 70 limit is probably less detrimental than 10-15 over a 35 limit. More dangerous perhaps but less detrimental to the flow of traffic. But I don't think most drivers think in percentages. They think, "I'm only going 10 over".

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gpsman Well... since speed limits are supposedly enacted for the safety of and with the consent of the general public, if EVERYONE is speeding, the problem isn't with everyone, it's with...

You lost me there. Everyone... will never obey traffic law, there's simply not enough enforcement resources and the fines are too lenient to compel compliance. Human nature pretty much dictates that people will always do what they feel benefits them the most. If a lane change is deemed beneficial, that's what they'll do.

I'm speaking of the road system in its entirety. And I disagree with your notation of where the most and "most excessive" speeding occurs. Again, I feel it's a percentage thing.

I don't think so. First, speeding doesn't pee me off because I don't care. And I don't care if other people obey the law when or where it isn't a direct threat to my safety. I'm really just trying to explain to the one-track-mind dimwits here that there's another, more legitimate, more thoughtful perspective on how to drive. And that people driving the limit or slower aren't to blame for traffic problems and exactly the opposite is true, proportionately speaking. There may be such a thing as a sloth driver but they aren't the problem. Sure, to excessive speeders slower drivers may be perceived as a problem but their right to exceed the limit is nonexistent. A driver operating above the minimum limit is well within their rights as a motorist as long as they KRETP.

C'mon, if 99.44% of drivers speed... then it stands to reason that the other 0.54% of drivers CAN'T be the problem! The percentages-ratio is too disproportionate. And if they are a problem, they can't be *the* problem. It takes the remaining 99.44% to *make* it a problem...

And I have no data to support my conclusion, no links to post; this is all my opinion of what seems obvious to me after 1M miles of *observant* driving in 49 states. -----

- gpsman

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gpsman huh? Literally everone IS speeding around here, at least outside of rush hour. I actually tried driving the speed limit to work a couple days after one of these...

"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws."- Plato




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