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On Sun, 29 May 2005 02:48:39 GMT, "Anthony Giorgianni"

So you think people do hatch from eggs with a fully developed skill set.

Well DUH. No one argues that SPECIAL circumstances would not require a lower speed limit. And if the non-special places speeds were PROPERLY set people would pay more attention to the special circumstance places. Unfortunately, most special circumstance places where people should be warned get warning signs that are WAY to low because people have been trained to ignore the ridiculous low speed limits they usually see, which they KNOW are lower then needed for any safety purpose.

Every time I get in this kind of thread for one. You appear to be a terrible driver who brings out the worse in those around you and who buttumes just because you are incapable (see your comments below) of driving a particular speed safely that no one else can do so either.

I can see that, but your "standard" seems to have nothing to do with safety or skill, it looks like it's just a set of "dad told me to do it this way" rules that you blindly follow now.

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S It doesn't have to do squat. If a competent driver can safely drive 80...

I see drivers cutting in and out all

Yup, that YOU consider... so if they don't drive like you, they are automatically bad drivers.

Amazing isn't it, although I see some of that stuff I just deal with it and pbutt them by and they almost never bother me, yet they endanger your life by the minute. Like I said, the people who complain the loudest are usually, not always, the worst drivers.

Why not get rid of cars too? They accidentally kill way more people each year then guns.

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I disagree. Posted speed limits imply that this is the speed that someone minimaly qualified for a driver's license CAN safely drive. Otherwise, how does a driver get guidance for what's a...

My preference would be for no limit outside of the special circumstance situation. Many studies have shown people have no trouble driving at a safe speed without have a number written on a sign. That' show the 85th got started more or less. It was really just a way to provide a rational limit so it would be fair to 85% of the drivers and still make it easy to give tickets. Otherwise the cops would have to actually show that the speed the driver was going was unsafe. Since that's virtually impossible to do, since in almost every case a speed 5 or 10 higher then the 85th will still be safe, the speed limit was born. It's similar to why most traffic tickets are no longer criminal offenses, that requires a much higher standard of proof, then the civil offenses they are now.

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I'm not sure what you are asking here. Are you suggesting that no one drives faster than their...




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