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Exactly. They were a developed industrial nation capable of making complex machines of sound engineering and quality of their own design and manufacture. Glad you agree.

Now chinese military equipment is generally half-butted copies of soviet designs with technology gathered from the west (mostly USA) inserted where needed to improve it.

So that doesn't disqualify Japan before WW2 either.

You are acting as if Japan came from ZERO in the 1950s which is totally untrue. And yes, japanese companies perfected and manufactured camera technology that Leica had patented but ignored and had allowed to expire. So what? That is in no way equal to the half-butted copying and ignoring of intellectual property law that goes on in China today.

That's the very heart of the issue. Name the foreign the companies that relocated to the USA to save on labor costs in the 19th century to draw equivilence.

No, what is happening in China is not some watchmaker immigrating from USA to china and then setting up shop. It's a US corporation that has it's people train people in China and then closes up shop in the USA.

It's about corporations in China who then take what they've learned from the US corporation's now former employees making their own copy and putting on the market first in china and then later overseas.

Earlier this week I saw a cheap chinese copy of the clbuttic pentel mechanical pencil. Of course that's a japanese product, but it's the same theme.

There's always the Schwinn bicycle story regarding Giant of Taiwan too..

Who planted china's existing manufacturing base?

Yeah, because people in the USA will pay first world prices for halfbuttedly made 3rd world goods.

I'm doing pretty well thank-you-very-much. It's amazing what you can find made in the USA, europe, or Japan when you try.