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Cyclists are Victims of the Law of the Jungle 4895

should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4896
Matthew Russotto The Highway Capacity Manual specifies 12 ft as "ideal" for capacity and makes downward adjustment for narrower lanes. If the lane is 9 to x ft wide and I am riding...

Scott en Aztl‡n

That's interesting that you trim a great deal of the context in order to open for this semi-strawman.

I'll play along for a bit:

CM is a reaction to a "cars are the majority" argument made by by anti-bike folk.

If bikes are now the majority, then car drivers who use that argument should just sit back and take it.

Now for me, I think CM is just one of the wrongs in "two wrongs don't make a right." But I do find the raging, spittle-flinging rage of the anti-bikers amusing. Hoist on their own petard, as it were.

should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4899
Which in my state would be an illegal maneuver by the driver, who is legally required to allow three feet between the car and the cyclist(s...

CM is not often, nor is it everywhere. MFFY drivers are both. And lots of otherwise-sane drivers want bikes off the roads. They want to enact all sorts of laws to make themselves feel better about their irrational dislike. Laws that solve nothing, that do nothing except discourage folks from using their own legs to power their vehicles. MFFY.

It's easy to pick on bike riders because of their minority. That's why stricter driving instruction requirements won't ever come to be - too many idiots out there don't want to lose their ability to be a MFFY driver. I'll bet some idiot driver delayed your journeys yesterday. Maybe more than one. When was the last time a bike rider did that? How often does that happen in comparison to the times where drivers do it?

Uh, from my readings of what you have written, that describes you. You *do* speed every day, right? I know, I know - "but, but, but..."

Folks who complain about bikers breaking traffic law are usually hypocrites in that regard. Heck, I break traffic law more in my car than I ever did on my bike. Roll stop signs, speed, fail to signal, etc, etc.

You seem pretty damn mad. I just ride the way the law says to. Or I used to. Folks absolutely hate a legally-riding cyclist, seemingly. So I got out of that, and now drive everywhere I used to bike (except on dirt, of course.)

What, like laws pertaining to the maximum speed? Like I said, folks who complain about biking scofflaws really need to clean up their own act first, or they begin to sound a little hypocritical. Hard to hold any kind of high ground when you're just breaking a different set of statutes.

E.P.




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