Gas: The good 'ol days 2225

I was born a lot earlier than that and have too.

My father left school in the depths of the great depression and led a comfortable life too. The only real downside of the great depression for him was that he never did get to attend university straight after school and ended up with a very comfortable life anyway, essentially because he did that stuff while working.

Yes there will always be some who fear civil chaos etc.

They dont have a close enough look at history to see that we dont see that in the first world anymore. The worst that is seen is an ocbuttional example of entire city blocks being put to the torch in ethnic ghettos and even that is quite rare.

I havent had any 'struggles' at all. Neither did my parents with the exception of a full world war that they were both involved in.

The only effect that had on one of my relatives the same age as my father was that the family always said that he was never the same when he survived the prisoner of war incarceration in Singapore. I never noticed much myself as a kid, but then I never saw him pre war.

Its not the peak that matters, its WAY down from the peak after that.

Mine are both dead now and I'm quite capable of working out out for myself.

I did that in fact when my dad was still alive. He was always into carpentry etc as a hobby and even as a teenager I realised that he wasnt that great at it, basically under designed stuff, not strong enough.

I happened to visit when they were getting one house built for them by an architect, an unusual design, technically post and beam, where you can see the structure even when its finished. That was all I needed to get me off my arse to build my own, physically built from scratch myself. I basically researched that stuff in the library, pre internet days, and had the hilarious result of the local council telling the local builders to look at my concrete slab mesh etc, because I was the only one that did it right according to them -)

We dont need to get it from relatives anymore, thats what the net is for.

Nope, it wont happen. We wont be needing to grow and preserve our own food.

There's a reason we industrialised agriculture and that wont be changing even if the price of oil is 10 times what it is today.

The most that will happen any time soon is a move to using natural gas instead of oil where that makes sense and I dont expect the price of oil will be 10 times what it was in say the 90s any time soon.

Sure, but there is also a weath of other sources to replace what you cant now get from your grandmother.

Not that the old sources are necessarily that useful now. One of my neighbours who got me into brewing beer couldnt find a decent ginger beer recipie, what you lot call root beer. I have got Mrs Beaton's famous book that appears to have come from my mother's mother, but it turns out that the net leaves it for dead. It certainly did with basic beer brewing, as opposed to word of mouth from my neighbour.

Energy efficient housing in spades. And I dont need to drive to the library anymore either.