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Gas: The good 'ol days 2231

Nope that didnt happen after WW1. Britain was left to look after itself and made a complete hash of that, essentially by going off the gold standard. It was really only WW2 that got the british economy going again.

Gas: The good 'ol days 2235
Larry Bud from the article, "Eating Fossil Fuels" which you can read here In the United States, 400 gallons of oil equivalents are expended annually to feed each American (as of...

Germany was FAR worse. No attempt was made to 'help pull them out of it' at all, in fact what actually happened was a deliberate attempt to cripple germany financially so they wouldnt be in any position to go to war with anyone again with reparations etc. That didnt work and in fact essentially guaranteed WW2.

What got the german economy going again was precisely the same keynesian deficit spending by Hitler that Roosevelt used in America. Nothing to do with oil at all.

Yes, and its that that boosts the economy so dramatically, just another example of keynesian deficit spending, in this case producing military hardware that is peeed against the wall in a very short time instead of major projects like dams etc.

Yes, but that has nothing to do with oil. Just like the industrial revolution didnt either.

That is just plain wrong with computing most obviously.

Nope, both spent up big on major engineering projects long before the war.

No need, that's all be done already with natural gas, nukes etc.

Not feasible with natural gas, its not currently used as much as gasoline just because of the disadvantages it has with the tank used to store it with a car etc. Money cant change that.

Yes, what has been spent on Iraq could certainly have been used to build nukes instead, and that would make a substantial contribution to reducing global warming and acid rain, but its just not politically sellable in the current situation.

More rather unrealistic, particularly politically.

Dunno. The very high tax levels were basically to pay for their adventures into cradle to grave socialism which turned out to have been a pretty stupid approach on the whole.

Nope, they were irrelevant to US gas guzzling. Those were the days when the US was self sufficient in oil and was still a nett oil exporter.

Not really. They arent as interlocked as that except in the sense that its the US purchases of goods made in china that allows china to guzzle gas at all.

On the other hand germany was much more obliterated than britain, so had to do a lot more new buildings.

Gas: The good 'ol days 2232
Of course I'm right. Your silly scenario of extreme civil chaos and starvation etc just aint seen in the first world. We didnt see anything like that even the...

Hardly any of the higher density areas of east germany was rebuilding, they were mostly new buildings post war, tho not in the american style of building.

It wont happen. America wont see anything like what Japan has seen.

That isnt going to happen either. The US economy is immensely robust and has been for over a century or more now.

We wont see china take over either, it wont be any more than a low cost manufacturing operation any time soon.

Japan never did manage to be much more than that and its lost that compebreastive advantage now, which is basically why its imploded economically while the US hasnt.

Japan has basically done its dash and its Korea and China that have replaced it now.

They're not a very big part of the total transport fuel use.

Much more into the cars than the trucks.

Its mostly the Jap mindset. It really is quite different to the american mindset. Very visible in the crime stats too.

Its more that the Japs have always been pretty rational about dissolution, pulling the plug when life isnt worth living.

Gas: The good 'ol days 2233
Rod Speed Because we had plenty of inexpensive oil to bail us out, and help us build a strong economy again. Without an inexpensive, copious...

There's still a surplus of engineers. Thats what matters.

You dont need that many for ebay, google, paypal etc.

Its not so much import as allow in.

Nope, there isnt much of that, essentially because its much worse back in india.

With plenty of engineers still in the US.

That stuff went on for all of the previous century, much of the full commercialisation of technology that happened in the US was actually done by immigrants, who stayed till they died.

Dont believe that myself. The difference between say the 1850s and the 1950s werent really all that great on the fundamentals of society.

Gas: The good 'ol days 2234
Nope, it had nothing to do with that at all. It was the war itself that built the immensely strong economy. And Japan got involved in that war essentially because...

Yep, and quite a bit of the full commercialisation of technology seen in the US in the past was actually invented elsewhere too.

It isnt the invention that matters, its the full commercialisation.

The US didnt invent the industrial revolution, just exploited it.

Yes.

Good thinking, 99. At least the energy source can be trained to crap in more appropriate places -)




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