Adrian much like they were saying : liquidate - there's a victim. Petty theft - there's a victim. Speeding - there's no victim. See the difference? Nearly right. Speeding - there's not always an obvious victim. I drove up the M1 from Herts to Sheffield the other day, at a steady 80-90. Who was the "non-obvious" victim?
In that particular case I would say there wasn't a victim, which is *usually* the case, but at other times there could be many, which may not always be obvious.
Please feel free to consider the difference between "speeding" and "dangerous driving" - which can be achieved within the speed limit.
Oh I do know the difference, yes it's usually possible to drive above a limit and be completely safe, but a 'safe' speed is not necessarily an appropriate speed, it depends where you do it. Limits are not set just to avoid collisions, there are other things to consider, such as pedestrians who want to cross the road, traffic wanting to pull out at junctions, residents' quality of life etc. Anyone who is inconvenienced or adversely affected by someone's speeding who would not be so if the limit was adhered to, is a victim.
-- Rob
