Ivor Jones
snip Now you're really talking cobblers. How can I not be English if I was born in England..? Because of your parentage. My parentage has nothing to do with it. *I* am defined by where *I* was born, not by where someone else was. If my mother was born in Japan (she wasn't, by the way, neither was she born in Wales) would that make me Japanese..? It would make you part Japanese. I can't be part anything, unless you cut me into bits. Which bit would be Japanese, my left leg..? Never heard of mixed race people, formerly known as "half-casts"? I said I wasn't a European, which I'm not, and nothing you say will make it otherwise, so give up now, I never will. On the contrary, you are European whether you like it or not, and nothing you say will make it otherwise. Wrong. Give up now, I will take this on forever, you will *never* make me say I am what I am not. Ever. Get used to it. What you say is irrelevant, you are European. Wrong. Give up. If you were born of parents whose ethnic origins are European then you are European. It's like being a human male, you don't get any say in the matter. I am defined by my country not continent, and by where *I* was born not someone else. As are the Germans, the French, the Irish, the Dutch et al. They will all (with the exception of the usual weirdos) say they are nationals of their country, but they're still European. To you, maybe. To other people, maybe. Not to me. Give up. So are you saying that a person can only be one thing? That they cannot be defined by their place of birth, by their parentage-ethnic origin, by the continent in which their country lies? You can define someone how you like, it won't make them what they're not. What makes you think you're different to the other 400,000,000 or so people who live on this continent? Nothing. If they want to describe themselves as something they're not, that's up to them. I don't and never will. Give up. What they describe themselves as is irrelevant, it's what they are. Wrong. Give up. Ivor
Give him a medal 509There are several subjects here. There are questions of ethnicity versus nationality versus heritage. There are also simple locational definitions and the level of depth...
Bugger me sideways, this is getting tedious.
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mobile phones 511Brimstone Using a hands free setup isn't a major issue (unless someone delivers very bad news to the driver unexpectedly). A safety case with a bus crash involved such an incident. I am appalled...
