HOV lane behavior... 4440

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Nor California. But the cite is quite clear. You asked for a cite. There you have it.

And everywhere I'm familiar with. You cannot reasonably integrate merging movements from an HOV facility to the pbutting lane of the GP lanes along the lines of a KRETP requirement.

21655.5 sets them up as a separate clbutt of lanes with their own rules.

Have you read your driver's manual lately? The photos absolutely prove his and my point. It is forbidden to cross a double yellow line (well, except for certain circumstances such as emergencies, noted in the statute). BTW, no one said they consbreastuted a separate *roadway." But they do consbreastute a separate *facility.* They are authorized separately in the statutes (such as the one I cited above).

Yes, absolutely, and again, we've not said the HOV lanes are a separate roadway so much as they are a separate facility, which they obviously are.

Being a little pedantic? You're knocking down your own straw men.

And no one is being so silly here pushing this line except you. What you cannot deny is that the HOV lanes operate under their own separate authority and rules. They are a separate facility.

Cite. I found nothing of the sort in the rules regarding use of HOV lanes, which as we've now established are separate from GP lanes.

Yes it is. Someone going 65 more or less with the rest of the platoon of vehicles is not a "slow moving vehicle" subject to the turnout requirement - nor to the KRETP requirement if they are in fact pbutting cars to the right at the time. It is you at 90 who is not going with the normal flow of traffic, if traffic is going 65 or 75. We have no obligation to make way for you in such a case. You just have to wait your turn.