Honda to sell sub $12,000 hybrid in 07 or 08 3902

(Brent P)

Ummm, do you tailgate sloths in the torqueless wondercar? Seriously? I just watch for a gap, and take it, and never have problems getting in at all without cutting anyone off. It's not difficult at all for me to find a reasonable gap, and I don't need a Camaro SS to do it.

So we both use a lot of short one lane ramps, yet I'm still able to merge with a slower car safely every time (so far)?

I-8, CA-163, CA-94 and Pacific Hwy don't have short ramps I guess. Or I-5. Sure. And that also makes the buttumption that I never leave SD, and drive in say, LA, Riverside, or maybe Mexico? Mexico and LA are known for their long, double lane ramps all over, right? Oh, and I learned to drive in Buffalo, NY. The Scajaquada, 33 and the Skyway sure as hell aren't Interstates.

Maybe we just have nicer drivers in SoCal, but that would just destroy some stereotypes about the region.

No, it was against one person. And not you. You made it presonal. The person I made it against laughed at the idea of safety being a concern, and only cared about speed. I agree, it's nice to have more HP, but I'm not spending thousands of dollars more when I found a car I really, really like. Compared with my ~130 hp Mustang, it's freaking fast. 1-3 less weight too though.

Okay, I'm confused why you posted now. The thread is about Honda saying they'll offer a cheap hybrid soon, someone pointed out that nobody wants one and offering bizzarre selections for what Honda should do, negating that their current customers might want to buy another Honda someday that they actually want.

You then jump in stating why you need more HP, defending yourself, needlessly I might add from my overall opinion of you from your posts. You and some others don't seem like the compensation type of sports car owners, but I think we all know they're out there. Someone has to be one, and the poster with his Cutter suggestion for Honda sure seems the type.

Your whole post was stating the times you need more HP, yet with my driving situation I rarely if ever see a time when I need more acceleration. If I did I wouldn't have bought it, would have traded it in, or would have modified it as needed.

I'd never drive a Geo Metro, and never have implied I would. Hell, one of my favorite anecdotes about human vs. car accidents has to deal with a friend who caused more damage to a Geo than the Geo did to him. (Broken leg vs. totalled.)

Main reasons: I won't buy Ford-GM anymore, and I would never accept a Metro as a rental even. A 120hp Chevy Cavalier I drove for a job before compared to my Civic is unacceptable to me even, maybe it's the gears, or the extra ~450 lbs. poo, maybe it's the Chevy nameplates even. (To be fair, until I drove a Civic around a bit I thought they were ugly pieces of poo. I still think they're ugly, but I'm so happy otherwise with my car I couldn't care less how ugly it is.)

My point from the start of this thread, is that a 1.5L Honda Hybrid that would probably be lighter than my Civic would be a good car for me, and I probably don't need a larger engine to be happy with the car. Sorry you took a comment directed at someone else personally.

Dave