I don't see your replies when you trim r.a.d off the list.
I was talking about what's presented here, in these newsgroups.
What they are designed for is based on buttumptions, rules of thumb, and regulations. Not data. Exactly as I stated, the reality is meaningless in this arrogance of sticking with buttumptions and rules of thumb.
See, by the book, in plastic
Example numbers in general, not you personally.
And meanwhile, the public at large is subject to the revenue enhancement whims of elected officals, and is caught in catch 22s when bored cops or cops who just feel like harrbutting someone, or just because liberty is now considered a quaint outdated concept use the underposted speed limit to their advantage.
And the CYA motivation doesn't excuse the arrogance seen here on usenet.
So, it's set for a record blizzard at night for an 90 year old woman driving a model T with kerosene lamps. That's an idiotic way to set limits and advisories.
BTW, yes, the ramp speeds are easily exceeded in a 20 year old car in the rain at night. I easily did so in the torqueless wonder car. When it was fairly new and when it was beater. I also can manage it under most conditions in my 32 year old ford. But these clearly do not represent the fleet in any shape or form.
How about understanding what LIMIT means. Certainly it wouldn't be signed for me or anyone else. That's how people who oppose it want to frame it, but I as one driver couldn't make any significant impact on the data. On local surface streets, even if I risked revenue grabbers by moving at the speed of traffic, I'd cancel out my own data points with the bicycle.
See, and that's why I bring up my bicycling. Because I want 85th percentile speed limits even when I am out there on a bicycle. Because the flow is much better, and it makes things safer for me in the right lane. Selfish me, not wanting to get hit while bicycling.....
Let me put it this way. Many people can't even graduate HS. Should you have been legally limited to a high school education? If you are hunting for the bottom of ability on the road, you'll never find it until you set speed limits to ZERO.
Thusly, a safe maximum should be determined from measurements of actual drivers. Something much like the 85th percentile method. This way, the vast majority of drivers will be legally operating. Not just your 90 year old women driving 90 year old cars in once a century weather at night. A limit is a suggestion. Cops can ticket people for reckless driving under the speed limit if they clearly pose a danger just as they can above the number. The number on the sign as it stands today is nothing but a taxation guide with no bearing on road conditions.
Here in IL, there are numerous potholed POS 2 lane roads that probably haven't had anything but resurfacing since the 1930s. They have 55mph speed limits. Yet, I get on an interstate, and it's the same speed limit. Sometimes lower.
