Scott en Aztl‡n
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Urban areas like Buffalo, NY? The city that's downtown was end by a light rail system shutting down the streets of downtown to traffic? The city that's now looking at spending billions to move or remove the light rail, to revitalize downtown?
Or urban areas like San Diego, CA which planned several freeways, and allowed neighborhoods to be built based on the planned freeways, freeways which have now been cancelled and had their funding shifted into mbutt transit? These missing freeways cause major congestion on other freeways, since there's more people than were intended to use them who have to - there's no other way between their house and their job. Mbutt transit is available, but only to certain areas and it takes 2-3x as long as driving, even with the congestion.
By some people's logic, they deserve to be in traffic, since they won't take mbutt transit. And all the service personell, who people need to drive to their home-business to fix some consumer's computer-washer-heater-phones-cable.
And all the trucks, what are they doing using roads? Americans don't buy anything from stores, get them off the road! While we're at it, make sure that FedEx and UPS are stuck in traffic too. Businesses never need anything THAT fast.
It seems most mbutt transit advocates ignore that freight shipping, service industries, and even busses require roadways. The more population we have, the more shipping, service, and busses we'll have.
In addition, even if you removed all the commuters from the roads, there's still a lot of people driving kids to school, going to a friend's house that isn't along a mbutt transit route, or going to a destination that mbutt transit has no reason to reach.
It's great to protect open spaces, but if you can't get to them what good are they?
It's great to say all goods should be freight shipped, but how many malls are built along railroad tracks?
Merge BeggarsScott en Aztl‡n I stopped in an onramp once. When I was learning to drive, I freaked out...
It's great to rationalize spending billions on mbutt transit, but it still leaves goods and services sitting in congestion, which means more pay for truckers which leads to higher prices in the stores.
Mbutt transit has its place - in already dense areas where there is a demand for it. Mbutt transit groupies never seem to understand the full reasons for demand on the roadways, which makes them act like they're disposable.
Dave