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The Great DfT Road Safety LIe 295

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Steve Walker I had about 40 hours, 2 hours a week, 20 weeks, after school, occasional week off. Went through 3 instructors...

On 29 Jun 2006 13:05:58 -0700, I agree.

But I also accept the argument that the way speed limits are signed isn't good enough.

As one recent example that affected me:

The Great DfT Road Safety LIe 296
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I was driving my partner (in her car) on roads she knows well but I drive on only rarely at a nice steady 40mph. (quiet, wide but rural road that you would buttume was 60 except that I saw no sign and the previous section of road had definitely been 40)

She said "actually the speed limit is 60 here."

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So I speeded up and was looking for any 40mph repeater signs (of which there were none). Eventually a few miles further on we came to another 30 or 40 limit and I could see the NSL sign in the mirror for the stretch of road we'd just left.

Next day we were on the same stretch of road except that she was driving and I was pbuttenger.

Coming off the roundabout onto the 60mph limit I could see that someone had obviously over cooked it on the roundabout and had demolished one of the NSL signs. The sign on the far side of the road was still present but that was at least 45 feet away at its nearest point.

So the only clue I had as to the speed limit change was the absence of repeater signs which no longer have a required maximum spacing.

Of course, in this case there was no chance of me being "done" for anything. 40mph may be unusually slow for a car but as it's the maximum speed allowed for an HGV on this road it can hardly be considered unreasonably slow but reverse the situation and how far into a 40mph do you have to go before it's unreasonable for you not to have noticed a repeater sign or a street light, especially when you might be buttuming the absence of them?

Tim.

(I'm quite sure that the vast majority of people who get caught by speed cameras, or brake for them, are inobservant idiots who shouldn't be allowed to drive at all. But I'm sure there have been a handful of cases where a driver has "blasted" through a camera at 60mph in a 40mph limit, not because they didn't see the camera but because they genuinely believed that the speed limit was 60. Fortunately, the fact that the cameras can't distinguish between the incompetent and a genuine mistake force those of use who want to keep a clean licence to ensure we remain vigilant at all times which can't be a bad thing)

-- and there was light.




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