The dangers of DRLs 4638

On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 21:14:25 -0400, Nate Nagel

And I say that keeping a car maneuverable even under heavy braking is not unnecessary in the least. Maybe you can come close to ABS performance in some emergency conditions, which would put you in the top 5% of drivers. Very probably you couldn't.

ABS is not an electronic band aid. ABS covers up a shortcoming all cars share, i.e. that the normal brake system is unable to cope with different friction at the tires during heavy breaking and with keeping the car maneuverable during emergency breaking.

Even the best cars profit from ABS and mediocre cars even more.

I think one of the reasons is that GM is way up in customer satisfaction and independent quality buttessments. Another factor is that they are starting to make more interesting cars.

Goat. C6. C6 Z06. CTS-V. Even the Cobalt SS is a fun little critter. And the lineup that already is fixed for production adds to that. Sky. Solstice. STS-V.

... that only suffered from GM's utter lack of experience with midship engine cars. Fieros still are quite capable at autocrossing.

They are aware of one fact. If the first version didn't work, kill it off before you suffer even more damage. Itanic (Intel Itanium) anyone?

An auto light switch with an off position is a contradiction in terms. The whole point of having an automated system is reducing the number of unlighted cars at night and giving a driver the opportunity to switch off the system increases this number. And there is no traffic safety relevant reason to have an off switch.

No, they are merely saying 'most people are forgetful'. If your self image really is so weak that you are feeling like a moron just because of a safety feature, that's a problem between you and your shrink.

You and I can disable DRLs if we so choose.

Not if the criticism is based on something he should have known before buying the car. If GM had hidden something (like put an off position on the switch that in reality only was 'auto' I would understand his anger, but he simply didn't a good job researching a car and GM is not to blame for that.

The software in the average car works better than almost all drivers could do by themselves on the road. What I was talking about was the abdominable mechanical ABS Ford used in the Fiesta and Escort in Germany.

ABS does a better job than all but a select few and I am sure neither you nor I can claim to consistently outdo ABS. In my little sportscar (not the Camaro) I can under good conditions because I can hear a certain sound shortly before the tires are at the lockup level so I can brake very close to locking them up. I daresay, though, that under pressure and adverse conditions I don't think I could do a job to match ABs. And neither could you.

They do, but they neither do have the off switch you postulate nor is this setting meant for street use.

Then pray tell how you induce a controlled skid in a non-ABS FWD vehicle without using external help (i.e. parking brake). Keyword here is controlled. Making a car skid with only non-ABS brakes is easy.

I can't wait for your explanation.

ROTFL. James claims the NHTSA as the source for safety info and claims somewhere within the vaults of their document management system is the proof he so desperately desires. And you support him every step on the way.

I suggest you find a better source instead of just complaining about mine.

All of sudden? James claims they don't. According to him not even 10% of the non-GM cars have DRLs.

Still there are many compebreastors, so the question is not, whether someone has insurance, but what company gets to fleece him. And companies go to extreme length to pull customers into their fold.

Bruahahahah!

Show me a sports car that comes even close to the Vette within the price range. Even more so with the Z06 and the upcoming supercar dubbed the 'blue devil'.

The GTO kicks the butt of every sub-40k coupe.

lackluster V6 sedans from other manufacturers.

I can't wait to see what models you offer as a support for your claims.

I wouldn't call the majority in here car guys.

Calling it bullpoo doesn't change the fact. Support your opinion with studies and we will see...

I looked at all information that was directly referenced. Claiming the info is somewhere inside some website is not info but just Bullpoo (to borrow from your vocabulary).

Then post something better.

No, you are wrong. If you were right, you would post references yourself. Unfortunately you can't, which is why you think that simply calling me wrong will automatically sway people in your direction.

The dockets are political junk. Post a serious study insead.

The Goat sells very well and is priced far below its compebreastors. The Mustang GT doesn't even come close with its lackluster modular engine.

One, the Stang and the GTO are not direct compebreastors. The performance of the cars is not even close to comparable. Two, as long as GM sells every GTO they get from Australia they won't have to worry about pricing.

Clever marketing.

Chris