Following up to Cessna172
nobody is arguing otherwise. But it isn't the point.
You cant have a personal definition of what words mean. This has nothing to do with driving or roads. The word dangerous means "a person or thing that causes or is likely to cause harm or injury.", you have a personal theory that it should only mean the actions of people. You have acknowledged that some very dangerous objects are in fact dangerous, like defective explosives. But you still cling to the idea in other cases that if human interaction is required for harm to occur, the danger lies in that human, when in fact its the *error* or *fault* that lies in the human, the danger lies in the object.
If you accept a leaking contagion gas cylinder is dangerous intrinsically, as you have, you cant then have another definition of "danger" in other areas. Danger is used like this "tree in a dangerous condition", meaning branches likely to fall "dangerous driver", one who drives in a reckless manner without due care or adequate skill "dangerous road" a road with a high level of hazard or where the consequences of error will be more serious than usual or where there is a record of high accident levels. "dangerous route (on mountain)" one where exposure to rockfall avalanche is high. and so on.
"danger" a person or thing that causes or is likely to cause harm or injury. "hazard" a potential source of danger "inanimate" not alive, especially not in the manner of animals and humans
these meanings are not in your remit to change, to pretend otherwise it pigheaded and will make it impossible for you to convince anybody of your no doubt good ideas about road safety.
Worst Driving Experience EverCessna172 came up with the following;: Why? I was in a fully loaded truck and managed to stop well in time, with even more traffic (maybe ten or twelve cars, so much...
In driving there are three sources of danger, cars (a heavy moving object always has the potential for danger). Roads (hazards that if ignored or misjudged will result in accidents) and drivers (which you already accept). If you pretend cars and roads pose no danger you miss the many opportunities to make driving safer by removing sources of danger by engineering. Nobody here thinks other than that a driver who crashes on a dangerous road is other than at fault. By all means go out into the world and convince people that when they crash on a dangerous road they must accept responsibility for it, although you will find that the insurance companies and police, to name two, are already aware of that fact. -- Mike Reid
