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ABD Francis Right To Silence Cameras Has anyone had case postponed 1298
Alistair J Murray Rob Sorry but that is complete rubbish. The only reason for a speedometer in a car is because there are limits, yet...

ABD Francis Right To Silence Cameras Has anyone had case postponed 1299
Either speeding is dangerous, and drivers are *actually* driving dangerously before they're prosecuted NOW, or drivers are being prosecuted for driving safely... In either case, to answer your...

ABD Francis Right To Silence Cameras Has anyone had case postponed 1300
And so are lorry drivers who exceed their hours - and restauranters who don't handle food properly. It is called 'Preventative Legislation'. So you would be quite happy...

ABD Francis Right To Silence Cameras Has anyone had case postponed 1301
I think I'll drop out of this thread now because we seem to be going around in circles. I have to say, however, Alastair, that...

ABD Francis Right To Silence Cameras Has anyone had case postponed 1302
Uno Hoo! I'm not offering a one size fits all solution to a complex problem... I still maintain that most miles of limit do no good. I still...

ABD Francis Right To Silence Cameras Has anyone had case postponed 1303
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:50:51 UTC, "David Taylor" OK, serious answer. There is no such thing as a "safe" bit of driving or a "dangerous...

ABD Francis Right To Silence Cameras Has anyone had case postponed 1304
Exactly! I was stopped by an officer for speeding around 22 years ago. The officer explained to me why speeding in that location was dangerous - something I had not considered...

ABD Francis Right To Silence Cameras Has anyone had case postponed 1306
Of course not. At the moment, the decision is down to the lorry driver or pilot. The only way to prevent this would be to test everyone before allowing them...

ABD Francis Right To Silence Cameras Has anyone had case postponed 1307
I agree that it is impossible to set a speed and say: "Drivers below this limit are safe - drivers above it are unsafe". I accept that without reservation. I do...

ABD Francis Right To Silence Cameras Has anyone had case postponed 1308
Look - it is plain common sense that speed limits are a crude instrument. I accept without hesitation that in certain...

ABD Francis Right To Silence Cameras Has anyone had case postponed 1309
Or 58 on a DC at 1am, clear road not near a hazzard. No, it isn't beside the point. I was very proud of no points in 1.5 million miles. I was proud...

ABD Francis Right To Silence Cameras Has anyone had case postponed 1310
says... Is that perhaps because the Police aren't anything to do with setting the limit, but they are responsible...

ABD Francis Right To Silence Cameras Has anyone had case postponed 1311
The stretch between Thornholme and Haisthorpe used to be NSL. In fact it used to be NSL all the way from Burton Agnes to Carnaby. Last year the whole stretch...

ABD Francis Right To Silence Cameras Has anyone had case postponed 1312
I'm not convinced that they are. Who has been booked for driving at 34 mph on a 30 limit dual carriageway? instead of I've gone over this so many times...

ABD Francis Right To Silence Cameras Has anyone had case postponed 1313
Thanks for letting us know the type of officer you was. I was stopped by an officer for doing 95 in a 50 limit a few years ago. The officer asked me what speed I...

ABD Francis Right To Silence Cameras Has anyone had case postponed 1314
Uno Hoo! Expert witnesses have not been doing at all well recently. You provide lots of examples of bad accidents, *none...

ABD Francis Right To Silence Cameras Has anyone had case postponed 1315
The vast majority of drivers didn't do 90mph in 30 limits or 55mph in crowded town centers either. I got my first car in 1979, a ford Capri. I owned it for two years...

ABD Francis Right To Silence Cameras Has anyone had case postponed 1316
I have attended numerous road traffic accidents where motorists have hit children who have run out into the road without warning. The vast...

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So, not really the same thing at all then. Well, actually, had they taught their kids proper road sense and had been supervising them properly... but that's another...

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Get your head out of your butt, no one is offended by your description of your driving, the...

REPOST ABD RIGHT TO SILENCE ETC. Approved: wibble
was popularly supposed to have said: The House of Lords has considered this, and thinks that the "forced confession" routine is justified because it catches criminals. Pepipoo forums however have found that at one point...

More from the horse's mouth
From an interview with Richard Brunstrom (Chief Constable of North Wales): We are running a little late to meet Richard Brunstrom, Britain‚s most senior traffic rozzer, commonly known as...

More from the horse's mouth
The what? Don't you mean "the examiner"? OK. But if things have "gone bad" then any speed that...

speedbumps... 1322
I've got one of those step counter thingies blu-tacked to the dash of my Berlingo, it counts the number of...

speedbumps... 1323
Yup I still have the Cinquecento - it just really peees me off that I cant have a comfortable journey in the precint without bashing the cars suspension to bits and constantly...

No. of driving tests
I never said there were any f***wit. Got one thanks. Those insurers that offer discounts for IAM or...

M42 Lorry ban the acid test
Not at all. It was 'cos most of the f***wits were up the arse of the car in front, and consequently braking too hard and for too long...

This'll upset the habitual criminal car drivers
Catseyes are set to become speed traps after Britain's top traffic officer revealed plans to hide tiny cameras in the reflective road studs.Richard Brunstrom, head of the buttociation of Chief Police Officers, says...

This'll upset the habitual criminal car drivers.... 1327
Janet have no jurisdiction over private individuals outside of the Janet network. That's different matter and if the they wanted to say something it probably would. But...

This'll upset the habitual criminal car drivers.... 1328
So, NOT "the name of my employer" then. It's an email address. And? Congratulations you've found my staff profile page, must have been really hard for you. Still think...

This'll upset the habitual criminal car drivers.... 1329
No it isn't. I haven't LINKED to anything. I have provided contact information, no more. The fact that you can work out where I...

Traffic jams benefit to changing lanes
I've paid a lot of attention to the merits of different lane speeds, and my conclusion (not desperately scientific but I *believe* it works) is in a three-lane...

Duch Govt to pay Motorists to leave cars at home
Source: Transport News Network. The Dutch government plans to establish a pilot scheme under which 1,000 motorists will be rewarded for...

British MOT Abroad 1332
David Taylor You seem to be having difficulty here's the relevant paragraph from the VOSA web site...

British MOT Abroad 1333
No, nobody's asking for a two month buffer. Nobody's stopping it being at annually either...

British MOT Abroad 1334
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Can't you read? "If an MOT is performed before the expiry of the previous one, the expiry date is the earlier of 13 months hence...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1335
Uno Hoo! ...speed selection independent of limits... I use my mirrors, I use my eyes. I see lots of people...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1336
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 04:08:27 +0100, Alistair J Murray Liar. If you see "lots" of people doing three...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1337
Alex Heney No I'm not. Yes I am. That's a fair few, if not quite lots. I do a much smaller mileage but avoid, where possible, motorways and dual carriageways...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1338
Uno Hoo! Good; so you have to trust the drivers judgement to select a suitable speed. Why do you suddenly...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1339
You have to *hope* that drivers have sufficient judgement to do that. Frequently they don't. See above - I don't agree that all drivers *have* good judgement! And that...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1340
Uno Hoo! Every driver who makes it round a tight bend on a NSL road has demonstrated the ability. They'll fall off the road without it. ...and everywhere else. I have no problem with...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1341
Alex Heney Please explain how a driver dependant on speed limits for speed selection negotiates a tight bend using *only* the posted limit for speed selection. You may use...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1342
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:50:41 +0100, Alistair J Murray Why on earth would I...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1343
Alex Heney Because it might demonstrate some utility for speed limits in aiding speed selection. I don't think they help at all, but...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1344
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 03:44:52 +0100, Alistair J Murray Well I suppose it might. But of course such...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1345
Unless you are a different species to myself, I most certainly *am* speaking for you, as well as the rest of the human race. It is a biological fact that no amount of argument...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1346
Try reading the research on the subject... It is a well established axiom that the drivers who...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1347
For the simple reason that you are more likely to have an accident the faster you drive. If NSL limits were...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1348
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:22:05 +0100, "Uno Hoo!" In some circumstances, that is true. In most, it isn't, AFAIK. What higher speed *does* do is to increase the probability...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1349
This is where we disagree. I do a fair mileage each year and try to avoid motorways because a) I'm never in a hurry, and b) I don't particularly enjoy motorway driving. Where conditions allow...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1350
Traffic officers can not just 'drive at 100 mph in a 50' because they 'want to...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1351
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 19:21:41 +0100, "Uno Hoo!" IMO better, because they would be forced to make their *own* decision - and their decision-making...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1352
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:00:47 +0100, "Uno Hoo!" The atbreastude expressed by those who claim that "they" are...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1353
Well, as I was a traffic officer for many years - and qualified to Police Grade 1 Advanced level, then I...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1354
Yes. In my opinion of course. The "system" used by the IAM is not the same as "The System" that I was taught. And where do I say...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court uU|G*dfHK8Zr48
Or perhaps your view of the IAM teaching is distorted? I learned from the "blue...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1356
You really don't understand what he is saying, do you? The relevance is that when most people (maybe not you, but you are *very* unusual in this...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1357
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:38:10 +0100, Ian Dalziel Exactly my point. What would you consider more dangerous: an uncontrolled road junction, or the same junction...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1359
But they are, and pretending they aren't, or basing a motoring infrastructure around the buttumption that they're not...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1362
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:06:43 +0000 (UTC), "Rob" Only among police-bashers. They do NOT form anywhere even approaching a majority of the population, no...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1363
True. In the case of FPN's issued automatically, I would always ask to see the evidence unless I *was* absolutely sure. Normally...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1364
You see that word "if" at the start of your sentence? *That's* the reason the system is wrong. I generally obey the speed...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1365
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 02:26:50 +0100, Alistair J Murray Of course. But then I have NEVER suggested that you...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1366
Here's a real-life situation that happened to me two weeks ago. I was driving along a fairly busy four-lane carrigeway (two...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court Approved: wibble
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:26:07 GMT, MikeB was popularly supposed to have said: The other problem with Gatsos is that the flash interval can vary, and the Scamera processor people rightly...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1368
Well let's give it a try: 1. 1 in 3 marriages now break down - often causing psychological damage to children - and putting a mbuttive financial burden on the state. 2. In an...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1369
Well, clearly I cannot comment on that particular situation because I don't know the location or the facts - but...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1370
You know Conor when I started senior school after 11 plus in 1958 on the first day the...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1372
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:26:39 +0100, "Uno Hoo!" That, I can certainly believe. But that is 50 years ago, not the 30 you have been talking...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1373
Nearly, but not quite, like nature intended. ;-) The thing is without contraception the females would very rapidly get pregnant and suffer reduced libido, reducing globally the amount of copulation, so self limiting in that...

How many Speed Cam Penalty Notices go to Court 1374
I'm not disputing that, only pointing out that everything results from a change in how the atbreastude toward such things have changed rather than a change in...

Lorry Drivers Take Note
My name is David Scott-Smith and I am the Training Programme Manager for a Company called Eurosafe Training Ltd and we are...

Lorry Drivers Take Note
Well, the actual lessons and tests (you have to take one theory test and two driving tests to drive an artic) are very hard, and very expensive, which is partially why so...

We told you it would happen
According to the trafficmaster blurb I read quite some months ago, the trafficmaster software at each camera creates a hash of the 4 central characters (Or somesuch) of the numberplate and forwards this onto Trafficmaster...



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