Cyclists are Victims of the Law of the Jungle 4890

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Cyclists are Victims of the Law of the Jungle 4890 And in reference to the above article about London, this reader states that cyclists should not have equal rights as automobiles, but actually MORE rights. Again, before there's war, it's better to separate. Velorution... Cyclists are Victims of the Law of the Jungle 4891 Matthew, read it again. The first condition refers to a vehicle operator- whether a cyclist or a driver- taking evasive action to avoid a dangerous... Cyclists are Victims of the Law of the Jungle 4892 You're overreaching here and perhaps you should read the laws for yourself. You can find them via Google for almost any state. Basically, the laws are similar in... Cyclists are Victims of the Law of the Jungle 4893 Tim McNamara Scott is fairly level-headed - it strikes me as odd that he is not completely familiar with the traffic laws in his... Cyclists are Victims of the Law of the Jungle 4894 Scott en Aztlán along. It's no solution - it's capitulation. I enjoyed biking to work - it was close by, and since the place to park was far from the office, I actually made better time... Cyclists are Victims of the Law of the Jungle 4895 Scott en Aztlán That's interesting that you trim a great deal of the context in order to open for this semi-strawman. I'll play along for a bit: CM is a reaction to a... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4896 Matthew Russotto The Highway Capacity Manual specifies 12 ft as "ideal" for capacity and makes downward adjustment for narrower lanes. If the lane is 9 to x ft wide... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4897 lane. Hmm... incompetent you say? Okay, so on one side of the median, there are two lanes and a bike lane--the bike lane has a two-across pack of bikers. All traffic is stopped... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4898 Daniel W. Rouse Jr. lane can right the incompentent get up to In until completely. Or, deal... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4899 Which in my state would be an illegal maneuver by the driver, who is legally required to allow three feet between the car and the cyclist(s). The driver who brush... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4900 Matthew Russotto) wrote in message See followup: there is not room to pbutt safely within the lane. The fact that some people are unable to accept the right of... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4901 Matthew Russotto) wrote in message Is the wrong answer. If the cyclist rides further out (in accordance with Effective Cycling recommendations) the drivers mainly get the hint. If you ride... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4902 Matthew Russotto accordance "space". In my experience, it takes only minimal driving skill to safely pbutt a cyclist. I certainly never... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4903 You can legally straddle a shoulder stripe, so make sure it is a designated bike lane and not a wide shoulder. Actually, you can ride just to the left of a shoulder... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4904 On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:59:02 -0800, Scott en Aztlán They are on the roads I ride if... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4905 Scott en Aztlán You buttume bicyclists are always slow and that this is justification enough to confine them to the crappiest portion of the road. It seems to me... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4906 On any road with a speed limit greater than 35mph, bicycles ARE slow, period. Especially with the addition of an uphill grade, say 6% or greater. And I've even seen bicyclists dismount and walk... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4907 Daniel W. Rouse Jr. I ride everyday on such a road and hit 40 mph on the descent. There is no obligation to... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4908 Scott en Aztlán Uh no, it isn't. I hit 40 mph everyday on my bike in a 35 mph zone. You have your opinion and I and many other bicyclists have ours. You may... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4909 Bill Z. HOV lanes are a completely different animal. Here are differences between truck, HOV, and bus lanes with bike... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4910 The high accident and rest rate would be costly. I buttume you are saying that more than economics must be considered which... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4911 Jack May The vast majority of bicycling is already done on normal roads and there is not a high accident and rest rate among adults who obey the law. You are fear mongering. Trust... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4912 Jack May and are ?? Bike lanes exist on only a tiny percentage of the roads in the US (thank goodness). The accident and rest rates for... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers Summary: what is is Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:30:07 -0600, Guess again scud slave. For your edification, some more quotes from... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4914 I see you can't deal with my figures. BTW, what's an obselete short-range Communist-Bloc... Cyclists are Victims of the Law of the Jungle 4915 Scott en Aztlán what's Your "explanation" is merely a claim. Your position from the bulk of your writings is contradictory to this claim. I just read what you've... Cyclists are Victims of the Law of the Jungle 4916 Scott en Aztlán what's Your "explanation" is merely a claim. Your position from the bulk of your writings is contradictory to this claim. I just read what you've written. I'll quote some to you... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4917 with A single bicycle or pedicab (i.e., a bicycle with a pbuttenger cart) isn't what upsets me about bicyclists. Eventually they... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4918 On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 01:11:05 -0800, "Daniel W. Rouse Jr." I have no idea where you are talking about riding. I don't have anything anywhere I ride called a bike... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4919 Vaughn Hawk believe waste In the Jungle everything goes, so expect the unexpected. The road belongs to the mighty. Maybe it would help to see Jurbuttic Park... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4920 Daniel W. Rouse Jr. First, realize that bike lanes are substandard width lanes that discriminate against bicycle drivers. Second, I doubt there is a minimum posted speed... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4921 the lane well along vehicles They seem adequate for one bike rider riding single file, IMHO. They are, however... should we also run rickshaws off the road, or just bikers 4922 OK, the message is loud and clear: Type A cyclists prefer to ride in traffic and that's... Cyclists are Victims of the Law of the Jungle 4923 on safety to lane. i see your point (i just hate that "deal with it"-end of discussion atbreastude-almost as bad as getting snipped out of context... Cyclists are Victims of the Law of the Jungle 4925 Yeah, yeah, yeah - I have a book of one-liner insults I could type in, too. Your mother is so fat... bicyclists armed with knives, keying cars, spitting into them 4926 Scott en Aztlán To be honest, I don't really pay attention to cars or bicyclists committing traffic violations. I go with the flow and... bicyclists armed with knives, keying cars, spitting into them 4927 On 10 Feb 2005 08:09:25 -0800, "Brian Huntley" Not enough. Let's say you were to mow down a pedestrian on your bike and then flee the scene. Since you have no license... bicyclists armed with knives, keying cars, spitting into them 4928 please leave forward cautiously. proceeded. Contrary to still in landed, the cyclists armed with knives... bicyclists armed with knives, keying cars, spitting into them 4929 Jack May return. ticket trap. the accident You just need to know where and when to drive over the speed limit in Ohio. I've been a Buckeye all... I need a better winter car... 4930 Like almost anything to do with stuck cars, it generally has little importance what they are driving.....bad drivers can get stuck in almost any car they drive, and... I need a better winter car... 4931 You'd be venturing off course. Be careful of the hype....."Bigger Nuts"...."Best4x4xFar"....and all that jivin' cosmic debris. Land Cruiser is the preeminent full lineup... I need a better winter car... 4932 I think that comes down to the airdam. If you airdam is low enough, snow will either... I need a better winter car... 4933 Interesting. I live above Vail Colorado. We see a lot of snow. We've been seeing a lot of snow all our lives. We... I need a better winter car... 4934 The Malt Hound bank Fred, you are a knowledgeable guy but you are wrong on this one. You are guaranteed to get stuck if you insist on plowing through snow that... I need a better winter car... 4935 that piles up on the underside of the car. it depends on the quality and structure of the snow. if there is light, fresh snow at -10C it will generally not pack under... I need a better winter car... 4936 The Malt Hound Well, the "snowbank" was on the road. :-) Here are two more pictures. In... Light Rail Myths and Realities Train drain: Why transit users should oppose light-rail expansion by John A. Charles Most Portland residents are probably under the impression that whenever Tri-Met opens... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4938 But they had their "big dig," and the result was a rail tunnel 2.5 miles long. They could have had a different "big dig" and given us eight lanes from the top of the hill... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4939 That's just plain silly. The WAG was about widening the downtown tunnel. US-26 is a perfectly good road... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4940 Light Rail Myths and Realities The real goal of light-rail advocates is not to reduce congestion but... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4941 That might be true of portland. In chicago, the 'L' (a train) is used extensively, but seeing empty buses is a rutine of city life. A frequent sight is two... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4942 Ummmm, Leroy? Been reading the NY Magazine lately? The system responsible for a third of all US rail transit works like this: The weakness of the... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4943 Correct. I simplified to the point of incorrectness. The problem of induced demand is so often discussed that shorthand creeps in. There is a case for induced demand as high as high single... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4944 Do you have a problem reading at an 8th grade level? That's not what I wrote. Let me try to explain it again... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4945 That's nice. But here's some simple logic for you. You have three lanes of traffic and say a 100 cars a minute going by a given point at 70mph. Let's say somewhere... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4946 Brent P visibility, where a and bicyclist Why do you bother arguing? There are idiots, and... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4947 I thought it was obvious that drivers as a whole vary from place to place. I found lane displine to be excellent in WV. On the... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4948 Yes a lot of people are on cruise control which I take advantage of when lane splitting. If... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4949 Actually I do have a problem reading and discussing queuing theory (that's the real name for the branch of mathematics you think you are... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4950 Induced demand is not what I am arguing plain and simple. WTF is your problem anyway? Um no. Let's say there are 3 lanes in a given... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4951 Yet, you refuse to believe what I wrote wasn't what you take it to be. Who do you think has a better... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4952 The effect you describe happens but rarely and it is seldom more than two cars abreast. Its caused not by bad driving but... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4953 If you understood that, why not answer this way instead of making the instance that I was... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4954 In My Experience. How long have you been posting to usenet? You're going off the... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4955 Poor lane discipline cannot impede free flow conditions by definition. Poor lane discipline is irrelevant to capacity because it isn't possible to measure in near capacity conditions. Likewise it... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4956 Robert Cote It can. Let's buttume that a given road has an unlimited number of free lanes. Then the upper limit of the measured 85th percentile speed of traffic would consbreastute free flow conditions. Suppose... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4957 Oh, now you are going to discuss again. Of course not, it's no longer free flow when the lanes... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4958 How about this: Although, he buttumes KRETP in his analysis. Being from a nation of more displined driving (Japan) that is understandable. He does realize that it varies from place to place: Upon... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4959 Yep. Wave propagation is often the phenomena you observe when the flow inexplicably slows and when you get to the source there's nothing there. There are other reasons as well like short onramps, or... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4960 From "Numerical Simulations of a Three-Lane Tra c Model Using Cellular Automata" A. Karim Daoudia and Najem Moussa, CHINESE JOURNAL OF PHYSICS VOL. 41 , NO. 6 ... V. CONCLUSION In summary, we... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4961 Brent P) A "live stop?" I, too, have noticed a distinct raising of the threshold for what traffic reporters consider to be... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4962 The entire statement: Poor lane discipline cannot impede free flow conditions by definition. Poor lane... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4963 Again, he asked for MY estimate. I gave it. Now you people want to call it a "measurement" and a "scientific estimate" which is neither what was asked for, nor what was... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4964 Robert Cote I actually think that I am far more intelligent than you. It's just not polite to say so. Oops. With... Light Rail Myths and Realities 4965 Again we are in agreement. I have no doubt you think you are far more intelligent than I. I do disagree however, it is not impolite for you...

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