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I am not denying it is that way if you read what I wrote. I stated it is not in our long term interest to allow this...

Brent P

Brent, you guys have been beating this to rest. I don't feel like rewriting all I have on the subject over the years. If you can search some of the old messages and reread them ... it comes down to this:

right or priviledge ... at what point do you buttert 4320
On Fri, 13 May 2005 21:30:18 -0500, Brent P I asked you once and I'll ask you again, what would you want to replace the privilege principle, that has...

*Traveling* is a right. No question about it.

It is the *mode* of travel that determines what rights or privileges you have in using it. Most of those revolve around who actually *owns* the mode you're using. If you're on a train, it's Amtrak's rules. On a plane, FAA and airline company rules (not to mention the Homeland Security crapola). In the case of publicly-owned streets and highways, you have to obey the rules of the government that owns them to retain your *privilege* to use them. AFAIK, there are no statutes that would prohibit you from walking on public sidewalks, even if you disobeyed some rules like spitting or littering or even riding a bike there. They'll fine you but they won't take away your privilege of use.

When it comes to driving motor vehicles, the initial grant *is* a privilege, however, you then acquire *property rights* in it. Therefore, you must be accorded due process to deprive you of it if you violate the rules. Simple, ain't it? That's why some of us spent years in law school. -- C.R. Krieger (Been there; done that)




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